Very proud of New Hampshire today, very proud. No one gets to judge whether or not someone else lives up to their expectations, no one! =

I hope he looked first at his franchise agreement, or has another biz in place also

I can just see cathy rewriting the basic franchise agreement. Every cake must be made in the form of a cross.

BTW how many people realize that religion is very symbolic and the cross is an instrument of torture and murder
As someone else said - if Jesus had been hanged , the xtians would be wearing little nooses

Which for them is actually symbolic, given that sitans murdered tens of millions of mulsims in the crusades and some of them murdred 6 million jews in the holocaust. as welll as using "a slave shall obey his master" in their holy book

Mormons - some of them - use their Book of Mormon to object to gays having full citizenship rights.

While most (not all) conveniently ignore their holy book where it says you need 3 wives to go to heaven.

While saying gay marriage will lead to polygamy - go figure.....

So Dave Cathy says "gay marriage is wrong", is blasted as homophobic, bigoted, hateful, and etc. Even has to temporarily shut down one restaurant for a bomb threat.
Ryan Manseau says "gay marriage is ok" and is lauded for taking a bold stand against discrimination, making a "huge gesture", giving "hope" to people.
Yeah, something is wrong with this picture.

@ Bob

"'So Dave Cathy says 'gay marriage is wrong'..."

Actually, it was a bit more than that. The company financially supports hate groups.

And all I said is that it's a great story, and that Anthony sounds like a good man. I still think so. I didn't mention Mr. Manseau at all. What exactly is your point?

Hogwash.

The Bible has no stance on Same sex marriage, certainly nothing against lesbians, and "laying down" is as evil as shaving or eating lobster.

Neither God or Jesus have a stance on the subject, just false prophets misinterpreting their words.

"The haters are on the gay side"? In a word, no. We welcome diversity and differing mindsets. We welcome those that have different choices than us, and though we may not want those choices personally, we do not label them as 'wrong', because they aren't. What *is* wrong, jrmetalman, is telling another that his/her choices of life are wrong when they have zero impact on you, or for that matter, anyone but him- or herself. Do, please, remember that according to your very Bible “Beware of practicing your righteousness before other people in order to be seen by them, for then you will have no reward from your Father who is in heaven." (Matther 6:1). Further, if "hating" to you, as your post suggests, is "giving voice to the downtrodden"? Well dang, give me more of that skewed brand of "hate", because I don't know too many others who would see that as "hate".

Impressive, yet still conservative, use of capital letters and the additional exclamation points are just what this comment needed to put it on the first rocket to Hale-Bopp. Wow.

Do unto others, live and let live, just enjoy your time on earth and be happy you're alive. Stop looking for a fight and attention. We ALL have secrets!!!

the christian who jsutified slavery as per the bible, killed tens of millions of muslims in the cursades and the whole inner circle of the nazis of whom all were active xtians

Some of the following pix come from the holocaust museum. most of the rest from geman archives.

Note on the second page how the german soldier's belt buckle said

Gott mit Uns - god is with us.

http://nobeliefs.com/nazis.htm

Lots of Christians study the Bible and Jesus' life and don't agree with the ignorant, uninformed garbage your right-wing pseudo-Christian cult claims is Christian. And lots of liberals are REAL Christians who aim to live Christ-like lives. Your understanding of the Bible is incredibly flawed -- I assume you are depending on some out-of-context English translation, instead of reading in in the original Greek, Hebrew, and/or Aramaic and with a proper historical context? For example, the "lying with a man as with a woman" to which the book refers is specifically pagan worship rites that involved homosexual activity, not the activity itself. And the word that is mistranslated as "abomination" does not mean "a vile, shameful, or detestable action" - the word "to'evah" means "something that makes one ritually impure and requires a cleansing in the ritual bath, or mikvah." Which is exactly what every woman needs to do every month after her period, by the way.

Why do Christians talk as if we're living in the middle-ages? Bible was written by man, sorry to burst your little narrow-minded bubble.

That is very true

Christians say we follow Christ, and the homosexuals say that is hate
The homosexual says we will destroy your country, and that should be their choice

He CHOOSES to believe that there is a God as he understands God to be from his reading of the Bible, and therefore his beliefs about gays are also his choice. Being "pro-God" to the extent that you believe that YOUR conception of God should apply ton anybody but yourself is being "pro-yourself" because it means you are holding your judgment as to what the truth is over the judgment of anybody else as to what the truth is. People like Dan Cathy are the arrogant ones.

Any Christian who studies their Bible knows that to divorce and marry another is adultery, and deserving of eternal punishment. They also know that a woman engaging in sex with a man she's not married to is to be brought to her father's house and have the men in the village stone her to death. Let's Hear It for PRO GOD ALMIGHTY!!

@ Jay

"Christians say we follow Christ, and the homosexuals say that is hate"

If only more Christians actually DID follow Christ - history's most famous liberal - the world would be a much better place.

Too often, it seems like there is this club of angry, judgmental, warlike, haters that refer to themselves as "Christians" and talk about Jesus Christ while ignoring his teachings - which were mostly about helping the poor and the sick. Just sayin'.

there is no place in any bible from a recognised relegion that says to hate. Hate is what being a Christian is about, teaching and helping others to learn love and acceptance. The bible also says that it is not our place to Judge. I guess that part was left out of your bible. might want to check it out.

at least the NH people are good xtians We need more of them.

And less of the others making fools of themselves by claiming they are the victim of hate where in truth it is they who are the victimizer

But they are so far gone they cant even conceive that they are the bad guys.

Just as the 9-11 people thought they were doing Gods will.

BTw we lost 3000 people on 9-11. Not to trivialize it the nuts there thought they 's kill 50000

But everty year due to the cathy's of the country about , per my psych neighbor, about 3000 gay kids are driven to suicide by the homophoic bullying, and horrific "christian Parents " who throw lots of them out on the street the day they are 18.

Have you not been watching the news. Cathy said no support to the homosexuals hate groups of America. . . only support to groups who support and defend American values, families, and marriage

Jay - he supports the FRC

In 2010 they spen $25,000 to lobby Congress NOT to condemn a country who had a ploicy of Killing Gays -

You cant chnage most of them any more then you could change the unholy ghost of the nazis who also threw the gays into the ovens.

I do not support any kind of anti gay or homosexual agenda
but I do support the Christian American Marriage

I say, way to go Chick fil A. We need many more companies to defend America from the hate of homos

He's an evangelical xtian. Soem of those people are in Africa and behind the law they are still pushing to hang gay people. Naturally, their allies in this genocide attempt are the Muslims and their influence in much of africa.

Why do all the homos support anti-American organizations.
homos seem to support anything anti-American

teh question is whether they are on the list of some major list of companies t hat fully support equality for their employees. I dont know but I doubt it

An example would be providing med insurance for the partners of gay people. Really good companies also provide an allowance because the partners med benefit cost is taxable income. Usually additional taxes of many thousands of $$

time for death to DOMA.

@ Bill

"I thought the furour arose over the company owner stating his personal beliefs."

It actually was more than that. The company provides financial support to hate groups.

Mosdt ot hf he chicken restaurants are in the south - the bible belt. Not surpriing the bad influence runs both ways.

Great, lets put up a boarder and send all the anti Americans to new england

NH also, avoided the overturning of marriage equaltiy by 2 to 1 in their legislature.

NH has a lot of repubs who are for social justice, though I disagree with them re their lack of support for med care for all, Which btw is standard in virtually every western nation.

I should have poitned out that those republicans in the legislature are Libertarians. We;ll see if the split from the repub party of the horrific tea party people.

They are the Christians who support America

I'd support that. all the rantings about protecting traditional marriage ignore that it is collapsing thanks to heteros.

@Steve -- thanks for your reply. I'd like to here from others to see if they agree (about the CFA owner possibly supporting other types of organizations). I obviously don't agree with your opinion about the "death" of traditional marriage -- but being able to disagree should be what free speech is all about

Bzzzzzt. Slippery slope FALLACY. We are talking about consenting adults.

And nobody is opposing free speech. We are opposing having money paid for chicken spent on discrimination against us.

Youve obviously been drinking too many beers. Your imagineation has run wild.

or did the FRC a creature of George Reker tell you that BS. BTW Reker got outed last year, not surprising.
lots of these ladies doth protest too much

http://www.ranker.com/list/top-10-anti-gay-activists-caught-being-gay/joanne

Homos hate everybody who support America

well yes there are lots of good xtians. eg Episcopals, evan lutherans, methodists, presby usa , UU's, MCCs, UCC etc churches that allow gay pastors in relationships and / or do some sort of gay marriage ceremony.

the old story of it only takes one rotten apple to spoil the barrel applies here.

Unfortunately its an enormous barrel and millons of well, you know apples

so you think homos are not allowed to vote
or is it you think homos have to work in substandard jobs

is there a certain color for homos
or perhaps a stamp on there forehead that says they are homos

If there is a rule which says employees may not hold hands. . . that is being equal

If they say a man and woman can Not hold hands, but a homo can. . .that is Not Equal

Gays aren't fighting for a "marriage created by God." They are seeking a civil marriage by the government. It has nothing to do with religion. By the way, the government used to ban marriages between a man and a woman if they were of differing races.

Nicely stated, and absolutely true. Being neither a Christian or a homosexual, it was easy for me to see the initial statement from an objective, non-bias viewpoint. Unfortunately any time an issue comes up like this (which really should have never even been an issue) it becomes so polarizing that everyone runs to their separate corners and loses all common sense.

It doesn't matter what he SAYS -- what matters is that his company and foundation have donated millions of dollars to political movements that oppose equal access to civil marriage. Like it or not, marriage is a civil legal status -- whatever your religion has, whether they call it marriage, troth, or shmoodlepoodle, is totally irrelevant from a legal and governmental perspective. Government shouldn't even acknowledge church marriages.

so you think you can define God and marriage for everyone. The catholic church did that for a thousand years that wereknown as the dark ages in Europe.

The right wing xtians like cathy in the past supported bans on inter-racial marriage as they were protecting the traditional marriage by protecting the sanctity of the white race.

marriage was originally a contract between 2 men....a father selling the bride... and the groom buying the bride.........religious ceremonies came much later.

JB...do you called your spouse's parents...mother-in-God or mother-in-law??? Just wondering?

So it seems, if it IS, as you write, "Marriage was created by God," then marriage, being a religious act by your definition, should not be recognized AT ALL by the government, as this would violate the first amendment of the constitution, "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion..."

as soon as i finish the box of ex lax.

Marriage is taking the body of the one missing the rib and merging them with the body of the missing rib, to make one complete person before God, This is called Marriage. There is also the Baptism which is death to yourself and being reborn in Christ. These are things of God, and God has already given the rules for this. But if homos want to start something showing their relationship, most Christians would not care. Just stop trying to steal or confuse things from others

No, because nothing about Christianity in any way requires one to take a bigoted and discriminatory stand. Granted, right-wing pseudo-christian cults do, but that has nothing to do with Jesus or His word.

pot calling the kettle black again. these are the same sort of evangelical xttians suporting the genocide of gays bill in Uganda. Little differnt then what happens to gays in Iran.

nice company you keep. Guess who you cloned = AH, born in 1888 in Austria.

Corporate CFA donated to The Family Research Council which is a hate group that lobbied Congress to NOT draft a resolution to denounce Ugandas' "Kill the Gays" bill.This owner sounds like a wonderful man... Corporate CFA... not so much....

yes they are. They want to shove their hate on you and then cry they are not treated fairly

@Joe (and others). The FRC did NOT lobby Congress not to pass the resolution to denounce the Uganda "Kill the Gays" bill. At the request of Congressional staffers, the DID help in changing some of the language. They have clearly (and often) stated that they do not favor the death penalty for gays. For more info see:
www.cbsnews.com/8301-503544_162-20006856-503544.html
(Sorry, I haven't yet figured out how to make this and active link -- only my second post here)

And the figures I saw indicated that CFA's most recent reported contribution to FRC was $1000. The FRC hardly seems like the example to use to say CFA donated millions to "Gay Hating" organizations.
@Steve -- Can you provide some information to support your "these are the same sort of evangelical xttians suporting the genocide of gays bill in Uganda"

Mr Cathy did not say anything but that he stood by the Bible's definition of marriage. All the hype is a result of others making it more than what it is which he is not responsible for.

God says a man is not to lay with a man as he would with a woman

Oh but Chick Fil A supports groups that advocate killing gays so they have gone too far. What they are doing is not Biblical.

Your boss is your master..what does slavery have to do with that?
As far as forcing religious laws on folks.. we see that everyday with the humanist liberal agenda trying to force their doctrine on us... such as the teaching of paganism in schools under the guise of earth day, the teaching of a religion that is totally bankrupt of scientific fact to back it up ( called evolution ) the forced indoctrination of our children to sexual perversion under the guise of tolerance..take a look at the results.. child rape is at an all time high, so are suicides, crime in general.. you are right what comes around comes around, and we are seeing the fruit of our turning from God to the religion of man.. and it's gonna get worse.. much worse

Wow, Campbell, totally nutso. There is nothing "pagan" about Earth Day; evolution is neither a religion nor without fact (clearly you don't understand what a SCIENTIFIC theory is -- it doesn't mean it's not fact), and crime in general is actually down. So persist in your fictions and fantasies.

We live in a nation for Christ, if you do not like that, go to any other country

Chick fil A ,donated $5 million in 2010 to groups which support America and defend against the hate of homos.

What Cathy had to say is, yes, free speech. He says he stands with Christ, he loves everyone, and gives equal treatment to all, but will not accept wrong as being right.

If your a Christian, you follow Christ, if you do not follow Christ you are not a Christian. seems very clear to me.

If you have a building which says it is a Church, but you do not follow the Word of God, it is NOT a Christian church.

Where is the hate in "homos?" All we want to do is have a loving family that is seen as EQUAL. We want our children to be safe at school. We want our spouses to be able to pick up our childrten, to be able to visit them in the hospital, and to have custody over them if we die. We want to be able to walk outside without fear of violence. And we want our companie to support spousal benefits for our spouses.

If Chik-Fil-A had donated to the NRA, any association that assists heterosexual couples with counseling, or any other conservative group which remains neutral on the marriage equality issue, then I wouldn't have a problem with them. I myself am a firm supporter of the NRA. However, I am not a supporter of hate groups whose only intent is to pread lies about people.

As far as following the teachings of Christ, Cathy is not doing that. Nowhere in any of the books, in the Bible or left out (by MEN, by the way) is Jesus quoted as saying homosexuality is wrong. The New Testament scriptures against homosexuality are all from Paul, a reformed Jewish rabbi who still followed the old laws. Therefore the only "Word of God" I will follow is the word of God himself: Jesus. I don't label myself as Christian because, well, I don't follow the religious dogma that Christianity seems to be plagued with. I follow the teachngs of Jesus while honoring everything He made, including my fellow man and nature. I don't worship in a building, I worship at the alter God made.

That's an English imperfect translation of what some human author said God said, yes...

I'm pretty sure that verse is about divorce,
"Is it lawful for a man to put away his wife for every cause?"
and because it describes one type of relationship it certainly does imply that it is the only type of relationship.

I'm glad not to belong to a religion that thinks it has a monopoly on truth and virtue, or that has fear fantasies of "devils" to take away the hard work of staying just and moral for good reason, and replacing it with blind fear. Some day you may be a real Christian -- good luck.

That's nonsense. No reputable scientist has stepped back from evolution -- only wackadoos at Bibllcal "universities" and right-wing think-tanks have. And as for "fairy tale for adults" if there are "many" show me three quotes. Cite them. Prove it. Earth Day is not "worship" of the earth -- it is a day that calls for respect of the conservation of its resources, rather than persistence in the notion that it is exhaustible and the big daddy in the sky will keep renewing it no matter how we use it. As for lack of proof, there is as much proof as for many other scientific facts for which it is difficult or immoral to design an experimental framework -- see http://www.kcfs.org/KsSciSt1999-2001/Fliers_articles/evolution_proof.pdf

That's nonsense. No reputable scientist has stepped back from evolution -- only wackadoos at Bibllcal "universities" and right-wing think-tanks have. And as for "fairy tale for adults" if there are "many" show me three quotes. Cite them. Prove it. Earth Day is not "worship" of the earth -- it is a day that calls for respect of the conservation of its resources, rather than persistence in the notion that it is inexhaustible and the big daddy in the sky will keep renewing it no matter how we use it. As for lack of proof, there is as much proof as for many other scientific facts for which it is difficult or immoral to design an experimental framework -- see http://www.kcfs.org/KsSciSt1999-2001/Fliers_articles/evolution_proof.pdf

David, a part of me is hoping you're just a net troll and not actually that ignorant. I don't know where you get your information from. Evolution is a very well understood and even an observable process (in animals with very short lifespans; like bugs). When people refer to the 'theory' of evolution, they're not referring to whether or not evolution exists, because we know that it does, they're referring to whether man and animals as we think of them were created by God in a flash, or if they evolved from simpler lifeforms. Every Christian I know believes that we evolved from simpler lifeforms, and that this is part of God's plan- they don't believe God is a magician; they believe he's a scientist. Science is not an attack on your religion. This will help: http://tinyurl.com/cfq35tn

Scientist are not leaving the idea of evolution in droves. That's the most ridiculous thing I've heard from a fundy in a while. Also, there are TONS of dating methods that go way, waaaaay beyond 7,000 years. Here are some you can read about so you can better understand how they work: http://tinyurl.com/d6as6nr

If you want to avoid looking like a fool, please do research before making such ignorant and outrageous claims, otherwise provide references (which by the sound of it won't help your case). The worst thing fundies do is rely on verbally exchanged information rather than researching things themselves. And PLEASE tell me you're not the same David Campbell running for the State House.

He;s my cousin. He says you're putting words in his mouth.

Amen to that, David

@ David

That individual was such a good liberal. I'm glad you follow his teachings.

David, if you do not have the info you or anybody can e-mail me and I would be very happy to supply a long list of scientist and books which agree with you

@ James

"This whole scene based on Chick-Fil-A, and their opinion about not agreeing on same sex marriage..."

It's not about an opinion, it's about financial support of hate groups.

Chick fil A supports Marriage and family values, and they give money to groups who will defend against the homos hate

@ Jay

"family values" is vague, meaningless Republican rhetoric. It's designed to be so vague as to allow the reader or listener to project their own definition onto it. What "family values"? Manson family values?

"they give money to groups who will defend against the homos hate"

What hate would that be? (this should be good)

As a Christian I have suggest this many times. Take government out of marriage, and do not give any special rights or responsibility to a marriage. Instead the court could have a form for people to fill out for those special rights.

My heart sings with so many supporters on this page! Just made my night!

You said it Steve. I don't understand why there are still many people that care how two consenting adults live out their lives.

Dear Society,

Don't like gay marriage? Don't get one. Don't like abortions? Don't get one. Don't like drugs? Don't do them. Don't like sex? Don't have it. Don't like your rights taken away? Don't take away anyone else's.

Sincerely, be glad we're all different.
http://dearblankpleaseblank.com/permalink.php?viewid=430095

And in case the issue has been muddied - the actions of this decent franchise owner aside - Chick-fil-A financially supports groups that DO work to take away the rights of a certain group of people. That's what caused the $*!% storm.

I am a Christian, and I support the government letting homos have a civil union. I do defend Marriage to be what it has always been

@ Jay

The issue is about a corporation that uses it's profits to support hate groups. It really doesn't have anything to do with you.

And the definition of "marriage" has changed quite a bit over the years, so saying "what it's always been" doesn't make sense. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeline_of_civil_marriage_in_the_United_States

And why do you use the term "homos" to describe gay people?

@ Jay

"the hate of homos"

Seeing something of a trend here. What does that mean? What "hate"? Sounds like you're the one hating.

its not what he said - its what he does...

he supports hate groups - he gives money he earns from you eating at his stores to hate - tell lies about our brothers and sisters - does your god accept this kind of behavior? I don't remember any teachings I read as a child that we must lobby to keep Congress from admonishing other countries for their policy on Killing Gays...

He can say anything he likes, he can believe it in his heart, he can even imagine a religion that uses money to hurt not help - but he can't have my money to spread hate.

These are people that understand the true meaning of freedom. People working together to support one another in making life better for all of the community. we often talk of our forfathers, well here is a very important part of this conversation....
http://libertyonline.hypermall.com/henry-liberty.html please take a moment, this is where our country started.

1. The Red Sea took care of the Egyptians before Moses presented Leviticus

2. What the heck is a "typical good 21st century Christian"?? I didn't realize a Christian's value is based on time--