You mean like the left claiming that 911 was actually caused by Bush?

Jan, this is not a political issue - no matter how many times you repeat your empty rhetoric. This is a national security issue. When our troops are not safe abroad and our Government refuses to provide them with safe backups - that is a natiional tragedy. Nothing to do with pollitics. It matters not who is in the WH during a national disgraceful tragedy such as this. It matters that the person in the WH takes his responsibility seriously enough to act. Remember all the chatter about the phone call at 3 am and how candidates would react? Well, this came in the late afternoon in living color and was watched live by Obama, Biden and the Sec of Defense. They did nothing. They let four brave Americans die. Have you had sons, husband or Dad in the military. I did. I was always comforted by the fact that US Air Force "had their backs". Take off the rose colored glasses. Your revered leader has failed. He has lied and left four men to die. Face it! We need a new commander-in-chief.

Right Charlie, you recall that on 9/12 the entire media and all reports from all the "left" called for impeachment.

And Judith, your colorful -no lurid - emotional story is a lie. Implying that the White House caused the attack, then watched in glee is sickening.

We do not know the whole story, but we do know that the echo chamber is being filled with anti-Obama rhetoric and the purpose is political.

Jan: The shame should be on the shoulders of those who look the other way, put blinders on and refuse to see the truth; all because they put too much faith in the words of someone they feel is above error. Fact: The president was at the White House. Fact: A drone was in the area already and began feeding back video to the situation room immediately. There is nothing to investigate when it comes to what was happening to those two agents who were begging for support. The President SAW it all happening.

Good grief. Politcal? You want political? How about the ad that BO put out that Clinton narrated about the death of Bin Laden in order to attack Romney during the primaries? Here, watch and listen as the mother of fallen Navy Seal Aaron Vaughn expresses her outrage and disgust over the insensitivity shown by this POTUS. And they were on the media again recently following the Benghazi deaths. Everything this man does is POLITCAL!!! Four people died on the anniversary of 9/11 in an embassy that had been previously attacked, who were denied repeated requests for additional security, with a drone that circled in real time and the Keystone Cops in the WH cranked out bogus info blaming a video, including BO at the UN, even though they KNEW that was NOT the reason. And the Libyan President stated immediately that the video had NOTHING to do with the attack!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E1x-5pCSI84&feature=youtu.be

Jan is right.
Charlie - Anyone that thinks over your question for more than thirty seconds will dissmiss it.
Judith - I also am from a military family - mother, father, sister, two sons - all marines. This administration Let (?) four brave Americans die? You're dismissed.

If Obama is polarizing its because his congress makes it so. over and over again.

How about calming down a little and wait for this thing to be investigated?

You want to scream about something? Where's your outrage against the last administraion that lied their way into an illegal war? Where's the accountability? Why is no one in jail?

They are just repeating themselves about the Libya thing over and over because they think it gets a rise out of people. And it does. It gets a rise out of stupid people that don't think for themselves to begin with. As if Obama is sitting in the Oval Office while the embassy is under siege, and says, "let them die!"

It's preposterous and outrageous, just like providing this carnival image for this blog over four dead American bodies.

Steve V - What do your two Marine sons (and I thank them for their service) say about this? They know that Marines always have one another's back. The Gov did not have the backs of our men. As a Dad, doesn't that disturb you? If not, I guess parents are different these days. Investigation? When? The facts are there. There were eye witnesses. It was all captured on live video. We all know that that type of info goes straight to the WH, the State Dept and the Pentagon. I don't need to wait for an investigation to tell me that this Pres failed our young americans overseas. Do you?

Jan - "watched in glee". Where did those words come from? Your words - not mine. Again, attack the messenger and ignore the message.

Watch every ounce of Republican interest in this issue disappear on 11/7.

Jan, you called me a "liar" in your reply post. In order to educate yourself on the sequence of events of 9/11/12 - perhaps you will believe former Pacific Fleet Commander Retired Admiral James A Lyons who recently published an op/ed piece entitled "We need full disclosure on Benghazi - now". He relates the sequence of events almost exactly as I did in my post - the one wherein you called me a "liar". Google the above - read it for yourself. It is a little more credible than Mother Jones. Nowhere in my post did I ever use the phrase "watched in glee" nor "caused the attack". Those are your shameful words. The more you post such vicious nonsense - the more you reveal who you are - you demean the office of a NH State Rep with such vitriol. Hopefully, voters read these posts before election day and vote accordingly.

"You know in the Navy in the late nineteen hundreds, homosexuality was rampant in the United States Navy. It was so bad that mothers would not let their sons enlist in the Navy until the Navy cleaned its act up ... On board ship the Navy found that there are three things unacceptable to good order and discipline and its impact on readiness. You cannot have a thief aboard, you cannot have a drug-user or a drug-pusher and we found out you could not have a homosexual." - James Aloysius "Ace" Lyons, Jr

"Iran already has established missile bases in Venezuela that can reach a number of American cities. In his best appeasement rhetoric, President Obama has stated that he does not think “what Hugo Chavez has done in the last several years has had a serious national security impact on us.” I doubt the American cities that are within range of those Iranian missiles would share that view, particularly if they understood the seriousness of our vulnerability."- James Aloysius "Ace" Lyons, Jr

Jan,

If Obama's opponents want to smear him over Benghazi, then it's perfectly fair to boost his success with the killing of Osama bin Laden. It was a huge success where George W. Bush failed and which Mitt Romney dismissed.

George Bush on Osama bin Laden soon after 9/11: "The idea of focusing on one person really indicates to me people don’t understand the scope of the mission."

Mitt Romney, 2007: "It's not worth moving heaven and earth and spending billions of dollars just trying to catch one person."

Obama, 2008: "We will kill bin Laden. We will crush al-Qaida. That has to be our biggest national security priority."

"AL QAEDA ON THE ROPES"

"The decapitation of leadership across al Qaeda affiliates has limited these groups' ability to plot major attacks."

http://www.foreignpolicy.com/articles/2012/02/23/al_qaeda_on_the_ropes

"GETTING OSAMA BIN LADEN: HOW THE MISSION WENT DOWN"

"On June 2, 2009, just over four months into his presidency, Obama had signed a memo to CIA Director Leon Panetta stating 'in order to ensure that we have expanded every effort, I direct you to provide me within 30 days a detailed operation plan for locating and bringing to justice' bin Laden."

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0511/54093_Page2.html#ixzz2AYM2aGqb

And now Obama's enemies want to inflate Benghazi into an issue that goes beyond "the fog of war" into what? Betrayal? It's ludicrous.

Next thing you know, they'll be calling Obama a secret Muslim.

This criticism is not political. When an embassy is attacked it is an ACT OF WAR! What is there about this that you don't understand? Only a politician with an agenda that jihadist Muslims couldn't have possibly done this because he believes that the bad guys are on the run would constantly deny and deflect the truth. The blood of four Americans cries from their graves for the administration to come clean. No it's not about politics. It's about accountability, incompetence and truth!

Dennis Kelly - If one of these four brave Americans had been your son, your dad or your brother would you be using this same logic in order to explain the ineptness of this President? My husband and son both served too many tours to remember in many different theaters. I always felt that the US Air Force "had their backs" and for that I was grateful. Navy Seals - active duty or retired - will take any life threatening action to protect their fellow Americans. The President did not do his job. He did not protect our Americans. He could not even stay in the WH to see this tragedy play out. He had to go to LA to a fund raiser. Money - more important than watching over our troops. Shameful. I notice he has cancelled a campaign trip to FL due to a storm. No money involved there - so I will stay in the WH where I am warm, dry and safe. Again, shameful. The coverup is the most shameful of all. Americans - wake up. This President is toxic to our country. He cares not one whit about our troops. He cares about himself - he cares about his reelection. We need a new commander-in-chief who will "have the backs" of every one of our Americans serving the US.

Dennis: Silly? Shallow? We are talking about people who want answers to why 2 heroes had to disobey 2 previous orders to stand down in order to rescue the survivors of the consulate attack and why once they had gotten them back to the annex their calls for assistance were ignored. Military support was 2 hours away. They died 6 hours and 20 minutes into the attack! It is neither silly nor shallow to ask those questions and expect an answer.

Ginned up? Unbelievable. If it was a Republican sitting in the WH the media would be all over this like a pack of hounds calling for impeachment. They spend days if not weeks, obsessing over the most trivial of issues, get bogged down in semantics while missing the broader picture. Romney nailed it in his initial comments, and asked why we apologized for a video. It took BO nearly 9 hours to get that message from the Egyptian embassy taken down. It was never approved in the first place but they put it out anyway! When Romney says NOTHING the media complains and when he DOES they make HIM the issue. Too bad the idiots out there that call themselves journalists can never focus on what the serious issues really are! Tell Tyrone Woods father how "ginned" up he thinks this is!

Isn't Tyrone Woods the former navy seal who died being a hero? Isn't it the Navy Seals who actually killed Bin Laden? They helped Obama, why didn't Obama help them?

Dennis,

The entire thing is the most brazen case of over-hyping an issue that, in the overarching context of America's national security, is a minor affair. Four Americans are dead, but their deaths are private tragedies. They're a sorrow for the nation, but not by much.

After all, tens of thousands of people die every year from lack of health insurance, but we don't hear howls of outrage about that. No. We hear the exact opposite: Howls of outrage if anyone tries to use policy and legislation to address it.

The aftermath in Libya from the attacks in Benghazi is far more instructive: Thousands of people in the streets protesting the extremist attacks on behalf of the United States. The overwhelming majority of Libyans regard the United States as their liberators.

Unlike what happened in Iraq.

That proves that Libya, so far, has been a foreign policy success with a significant Arab population in the Middle East. That's a credit to Obama. Libya is his baby.

Amen.

It is for the good of the country that Obama must be a one term president! No one is saying that the "POTUS should have suited up and personally gone to Libya"! But he watched as 2 agents, who had just rescued survivors from the consulate, tried to hold back heavily armed terrorist with machine guns, and did nothing to give them the military support they repeatedly begged for. American soil was being fired on and he did nothing. America wants to know why and he keeps saying they are investigating! So let's see...he's investigating what HE saw and why the order that only HE could give wasn't given. I'm sure we'll get that answer...NOT!

Please provide references as to where it says Obama refused aid to an embassy under siege.

Go. Now.

FTP: Do you not have the ability to reason? Even if you don't believe the whistle blowers who were on the ground in Benghazi, and who have reported that they were both told to stand down and requested air support; it is obvious that no support showed up!! Soooo....if Obama was at the White House (which he was) and was in the situation room keeping in touch with all parties involved (which he says he was), and he didn't send in help...what would you call it? There are several people who survived this attack (thanks to 2 dead heroes), so why hasn't the President "gotten to the bottom of it" yet? These are the people who are the "sources" behind the news coming out on this. Don't you think that if their story backed up Obama's version he'd be putting an end to the speculation?

Dennis, Your first sentence doesn't deserve a reply. I am not a Republican . However, I am the wife of a 26 yr USAF pilot - 292 combat missions. I am the mom of a 23 yr USAF navigator - with more time spent in the Middle East than I wish to remember. His KC135 the first refueler in the air after 9/11. Saying goodbye to him was the hardest thing I had done. We must have assurances from our Gov that when our military and gov service people are in a combat situation that the Gov has their backs. That is not the case. Obama is a poor leader. Perhaps if he had attended the WH intel briefings he might have known what was going on. Once again, when all else fails, play the race card!! My "patriotism" has been earned by the blood, sweat and tears of many brave men, women and families who have had to bear the brunt of war. Any yours.................

I guess you don't have any references. Shocking. Find the Republican with references, and I have a bridge to sell you. It's all about fear and loathing, hysteria and theatrics, isn't it? Disgusting. You dance on the bodies of dead Americans to push your agenda. Soulless.

You won't accept my references! But here's just one:
http://bredred.com/cia-ops-denied-help-during-benghazi/

Now YOU show ME where it says he did send in air support!

I don't suppose you know what "bred red" means? Good god are right-wingers disappointing or what? My browser is still trying to load all of the Fox news links.

But I watched your video, and none of it implicates Obama. In fact, they do not source their claims for what they are saying in the video! Critical thinking, please, learn how to do it. Check your sources and don't use right-wing sites to justify your behavior.

And here's my references (mine isn't a video like yours, it will require a certain reading level):

Panetta on Benghazi attack: 'Could not put forces at risk'
http://security.blogs.cnn.com/2012/10/26/panetta-on-benghazi-attack-could-not-put-forces-at-risk/?iref=allsearch

"Don't rush to join Benghazi blame game"
http://www.cnn.com/2012/10/25/opinion/maller-cia-benghazi/index.html?iref=allsearch

1) “I do take offense with some suggestion that in any way, we haven’t tried to make sure that the American people knew as the information was coming in what we believed" -- Obama re Benghazi.

Then how come we still don't know, from Obama himself, what he has known since the night of 9/11? Was there a live video feed? Was he watching it? Were the drones armed? Did he try to scramble any airplanes? Did any airplane fire anything that night? Wouldn't a single missile from any airplane have done much to end the attack? Obama has personally known the answer to all of these questions for 6 weeks, yet he has obfuscated when asked about such matters. People don't tend to hide exonerating information. Please explain why Obama is doing so.

2) Yes, it really was shocking when Mitt Romney stood in front of the "Mission Accomplished" banner on the aircraft carrier whose mission was accomplished and said "We have difficult work to do in Iraq. We are bringing order to parts of that country that remain dangerous.... Our mission continues...The War on Terror continues, yet it is not endless. We do not know the day of final victory, but we have seen the turning of the tide." Oh. Wait....

FTP: I read them. My thoughts:
I find Panetta's statement, "He said the drone was redirected and arrived in time to record some of the attack. But he described what the drone saw as "looking down, seeing a bunch of buildings and fires, a lot of chaos on the ground." far from credible!
Wikipedia says:
UAV remote sensing functions include electromagnetic spectrum sensors, gamma ray sensors, biological sensors, and chemical sensors. A UAV's electromagnetic sensors typically include visual spectrum, infrared, or near infrared cameras as well as radar systems. Other electromagnetic wave detectors such as microwave and ultraviolet spectrum sensors may also be used, but are uncommon. Biological sensors are sensors capable of detecting the airborne presence of various microorganisms and other biological factors. Chemical sensors use laser spectroscopy to analyze the concentrations of each element in the air.

Does he think that the American people are so stupid that we do not know just how detailed the information from a drone is?

An unnamed "official" states in the article: "it would be physically impossible for them to get there in time to intervene in that attack from say, Rota, Spain."

Gee, I wonder why he didn't mention Sigonella Air base in Italy which is two hours away?

(cont.)

The unnamed "official" also said, "You had the movie, the 9/11 anniversary and unrest in various countries in that region. All that factored into the decision to put troops on a heightened state of alert. But that doesn't mean forces are positioned everywhere in the world, ready to run to the rescue. We're not the fire department. And there was no actionable intelligence that Benghazi was going to be attacked on 9/11."

Really!?! Ok, so maybe they didn't get an official memo from the terrorists telling them "Hey guys, we're gonna kill your ambassador on 9/11" but I would think the fact that the embassy was bombed on June 6th should have given them a clue! Not to mention the calls on facebook to kill the ambassador complete with pictures to identify him. And, well, we all know that 9/11 is a perfectly safe day for Americans abroad!

So maybe they shouldn't have forces all over the world, but maybe where everybody has been getting bombed might have been a good idea.

Please Google UAV aerial photography. Aside from the many sensors that scan the ground (and can detail a war zone), UAV aerial photography is most certainly a reality. Do you really think we can't take pictures from the sky?

You are the low information voter, and it's scary that a hateful person like you who is clearly clueless and ranting over things you know nothing about will actually be voting next week.

But fear not, I will be voting, also, and ignorant folks will be dragged kicking and screaming into the future where everyone is welcome in America, not just who your bigoted party decides is American enough.

HUH?!?!? Of course they can get detailed photography from a drone! My point in posting the info was to point out HOW detailed the photos and info is!!! I find it absolutely hilarious that, in your zeal to prove me wrong, you have backed up my statement that Panetta's statement that all they saw was a bunch of buildings on fire in in no way credible!!!

This article is out of date info that is now a moot point. The President has already admitted that it was a terror attack (after a few weeks of going back and forth on it). However, even if we put aside all previous warnings and attacks on the consulate (yeah they blew out a wall about a month prior), then it still does not explain why our men were left on a rooftop to fend off mortar fire with a machine gun they were sharing for 6 hours and 20 minutes when help was only 2 hours away!

Mother Jones - Mother Jones. Please!!!!!! Jan, take off those rose colored glasses. Everything is known. It is all on tape. The Pres watched this happen live - in living color. He went to bed! He got up the next day and went to a fund raiser. Is that your idea of a national leader? If so, you get what you deserve!

"Mother Jones"? that is too funny... Next you'll be linking to DailyKos, Huffiington Post....

If you are going to accept information from Fox News, you need to accept information from its left wing equivalent.

It is not political hay!!!! Do you not have any place in your heart for those heroes? They had to disobey orders to rescue the survivors at the consulate, people who are alive today because of it! They used laser sites to enable the drone to get the exact coordinates of the mortar launcher, and yet no air support was ever sent to take it out! This is not Democrat vs. Republican...this is Americans vs. terrorists!!!

Were you similarly concerned when Democrats made political hay out of Katrina?....

Yeah, I didn't think so...

I know nothing about this fantasy you have been fed Lorna. Don't let yourself be led by political operatives into a Republican Fantasy.

Speaking of fantasies:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K1Ytbr-7VaE

What cover up? Turn off Fox news. The president has already said there is an investigation.

FTP: Just exactly does he have to investigate. He SAW it happening in real time! He met with Biden and the Secretary of Defense within an hour, and yet he says he has to investigate!?!?! Investigate what? Why HE didn't send in air support!?!?

Krissy, Great analysis. The administration is engaging in a criminal coverup - for purely political reasons. That is the real "politicizing" that is going on. The press refuses to cover it. Won't allow the subject to be discusssed on the Sun talk shows. Newspapers are silent. Just remember in November!!

References, Lorna.

Right, you don't have any. Moving on to the next clueless Republican.

FTP: Take less than 6 minutes and watch this video. Then show me references that counteract the information from the whistle blowers.

http://bredred.com/cia-ops-denied-help-during-benghazi/

I responded to you with references to your previous comments, scroll up.

FTP: I have replied. Scroll up. Also, if you won't believe FOX maybe you'll believe CBS:
http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-202_162-57541740/libyan-witnesses-recount-organized-benghazi-attack/

Steve, my heartfelt sympathy to your son. I know what your family is going through. War is hell. Those who serve are saints. You have every right and reason to be so very proud of your son - and our country thanks him for his service. For those of us whose family members served we all agree that they did so with great courage. However, the scars of combat never leave. Physical or emotional. I am concerned about the present as my grandsons reach the age of majority. I cannot go back and change the past. Two wrongs do not make a right. I can only hope and pray that the USA can elect a leader who will be a model commander-in-chief. I will always remember my outrage when Bush 41 was cruising off the coast of Maine in his cigarette boat while my son was being deployed to the Middle East. I hope my daughter never has to feel that outrage when her sons serve. That is my reason for calling Obama a weak leader. I am an Undeclared voter and I will (and always have) vote for the man I think will be the best leader for our country. That man at this time is Mitt Romney.

Judith,
For all the same reasons - I will be voting for Obama.
Obama is mature and steady and will not lead us into wars that can be avoided.
I'm never sure which Romney is speaking there are so many.

Steve, I have to ask you, who led us into Libya? How about Egypt? Who's airplanes were providing air support in those countries?

Great advice.

There are four Americans who would beg to differ...if they weren't DEAD!!!!!

It's terrible that he was killed. But you can't blame the death of every last American on foreign soil on the president. And it's disgraceful to turn it into a political issue, but the GOP has no shame. Mitt couldn't wait to jump on the story. He was up there in front of the cameras, gnawing on the ambassador's bones. He walked away from the press conference with his little smirk. It was creepy. He didn't express sympathy to the families of the fallen. It didn't occur to the man. He was happy it happened. Death means nothing to him.

Obama 2012.

David: It was NOT foreign soil!!! Embassy properties are considered to be sovereign soil of the country occupying the embassy property!!! And as far as holding the President responsible...Hey, it comes with the job. Obama has stated that he was on top of things from the beginning and that he was in contact with all officials involved. As Commander in Chief, it is his responsibility to make the calls. If he was on top of things from the beginning, why does he need an investigation? If drones were feeding back video (which they admit exists) why did he not send in the air support? If, as Panetta says, all they could see was a bunch of buildings on fire, why has the video not been released to Congress because they have classified it "top secret"? Thank God we have a candidate who has the balls to stand up and call a terror attack what it is!!!

Also read how the Admiral hates "homosexuals" and the President.

"You know in the Navy in the late nineteen hundreds, homosexuality was rampant in the United States Navy. It was so bad that mothers would not let their sons enlist in the Navy until the Navy cleaned its act up ... On board ship the Navy found that there are three things unacceptable to good order and discipline and its impact on readiness. You cannot have a thief aboard, you cannot have a drug-user or a drug-pusher and we found out you could not have a homosexual." - James Aloysius "Ace" Lyons, Jr

"Iran already has established missile bases in Venezuela that can reach a number of American cities. In his best appeasement rhetoric, President Obama has stated that he does not think “what Hugo Chavez has done in the last several years has had a serious national security impact on us.” I doubt the American cities that are within range of those Iranian missiles would share that view, particularly if they understood the seriousness of our vulnerability."- James Aloysius "Ace" Lyons, Jr

Do you believe that Iran has missile bases in Venezuela? The Retired Admiral does.....

Mike Healy, I always wondered what your true agenda is. After your first post - I now get it. It is crystal clear. If your initial response to Admiral Lyons article is "the Admiral hates homosexuals" - (completely ignoring this distinguished military leader's concern for our security) then you fall into that category - attack the messenger and ignore the message. I now know where you are coming from and I will treat your comments accordingly. I had no idea!!

Fox News analyst Pat Caddell.....Faux News, enough said.

Comments from inside the Faux Bubble.

Always funny to hear a Faux pundit talk about media bias....

Pat Caddell hasn't been a Democrat since 1986

and the pattern repeats.... attack the person, not the information. thanks Healey. I know you are so blinded you can't see a massive cover up and blatant protection from the media so your reaction doesn't surprise me.

I've seen varying versions of a timeline of what happened when. All of them agree that the 2 Seals were killed somewhere between 2-4:30am. And it doesn't matter, because we knew we were being attacked hours earlier, and we could have and should have had assets on the ground and in the air taking out every last one of the terrorists. But no help was sent.

Support was with them when they died.

Reinforcements arrived an hour before, and it was when they tried to move everyone from the safe house they were ambushed. The gunfire lasted just an hour where the two Navy Seals had died.

Good job making NF and Krauthammner's point Watts.
Did you even read the article NF posted?

Do you rightwingers even read the links you post?

I don't believe they actually read, listen, or interact with others outside of the fear and loathing bubble. They only talk at progressives to rage. For these types of people, being angry is very pleasurable. Things like facts don't matter.

Michael Kenney-What process do you use to validate or invalidate sources?

What about your job lets you put down other service folks for their own life choices?

Michael Kenney-Do you consider Fox News a reputable source? Newsmax?

I have noticed several RW posters linking to articles based on headlines rather than the content which at times contradicts the headline and the assertion of the claim. You are not one of the posters that does that, as far as I can tell.