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What is the Real Cost of Not Raising the Gas Tax?

Straight Talk March 1, 2013 edition

By State Rep. Margorie Porter

(With many thanks to Rep. David Campbell of Nashua for the information in his excellent blurb!)

You may remember a few months ago when the Sarah Mildred Long Bridge in Portsmouth was out of commission. Seems as if they raised the center on a routine check, and it got stuck in a partial up position. It took maintenance crews, at great personal risk working in high winds and stormy weather, days to finally get it fixed. 

During that time, Seacoast residents and tourists were left with only one bridge connecting Maine and NH, as the Memorial Bridge is closed. There were traffic jams and long delays. Goods and services could not get where they needed to be, so businesses suffered. People trying to get to the naval shipyard had a hard time of it, as the Long Bridge is THE way to get there. And because the bridge couldn't be raised, fuel tankers and other ships were stuck in the harbor, waiting to get in to deliver their goods. It was quite a mess.

The Sarah Mildred Long Bridge is a state bridge. It is red listed — meaning everyone knows it needs major repair to make it safe. In fact, it is the state’s #1 red listed bridge. It will cost NH $85 million to repair it. Too bad for Portsmouth, Kittery, and Seacoast residents and visitors — because the state has no money to fix it. None. As in zero.

New Hampshire has 493 red listed bridges—140 state bridges, and 353 municipal bridges. Thirty of those red listed bridges are located in Hillsboro and surrounding towns.

The other night I was driving home from a meeting in Deering, along good old Rte. 149. It was dark, and I didn't see the pothole I hit. All I know is that my muffler was fine until I hit that pothole, and after, it started to roar! 

Come to find out, that five miles of Rte. 149 in Deering is included in the approximately 38 miles of local roads the Dept. of Transportation has classified as being in poor repair — major work required. All told in the state, 1,661 miles of roads — 36 percent of them —vare classified as in poor repair. This is up from 630 miles in 2000. We rank ninth worst nationally for the condition of our rural roads.

$780 later, I have a new exhaust system. I guess I shouldn't mind too much, because NH has the lowest gas tax in New England. Surely what I save in gasoline taxes in a year must cover the cost of this repair. Surely it must?

Read on.

Anyone who commutes to Massachusetts can testify to the traffic conditions at peak hours on I-93 — the state’s main transportation artery. Traffic jams and delays are the norm. We've been working on widening I-93 for years now. We need $250 million more to complete the project. Money the state does not have. The widening may never be completed.

The revenue New Hampshire uses to build and maintain its roads and bridges is raised by the “road toll” — commonly called the gasoline tax. (It is properly called a road toll, because it is paid by people who use the roads.) In fact, all revenue received from this toll is used for this purpose — with a portion going back to cities and towns to help them maintain their municipal roads and bridges as well. 

New Hampshire’s gas tax is 18 cents a gallon, and has been since 1991, when gasoline cost $1.14 a gallon. Cars are more fuel-efficient now and use less gas. Inflation has happened. Adjusting for inflation, revenue from the tax actually declined 15 percent between 1991 and 2009. The tax is simply not bringing in enough money to fix what needs to be fixed. 

We've ignored the problem for years. To continue to do so is irresponsible. Our crumbling infrastructure is hurting us economically.

You can see where I am going here. Rep. David Campbell (D-Nashua) filed HB 617, which as amended, raises the gas tax 4 cents per gallon in each of the next three years, and 3 cents per gallon in the fourth year, for a total increase of 15 cents by 2017. Estimates are this will increase revenue by just under one billion dollars over the next 10 years. All of it will be used for infrastructure repair. $800 million will go to the DOT to complete the widening of I 93, and to reduce the number of red-listed bridges and roads in poor repair. $200 million MORE will be sent to cities and towns to help them with their repair projects. 

The Public Works and Highways Committee, with membership of 12 Democrats and 9 Republicans, has voted UNANIMOUSLY to recommend passage. We will be voting on HB 617 on Wednesday. I will vote in favor. 

How much will this increase cost you? In 2017, when the 15 cents is fully phased in, the average driver who drives 12,000 miles per year and gets 22.6 MPG will be paying an extra $79/year.

And FYI, in a recent study by TRIP, the average NH driver now pays $323/year in added car repair costs due to poor road conditions. This is up from $259 four years ago.

So much for our low gas taxes making up for cost of my new muffler! At this rate, it will take 10 years to recoup the cost! 

Who knew?

Author: State Representative Marjorie Porter (with permission)

News Flash

3:25 pm on Wednesday, February 27, 2013

Use the money we collect now instead of a tax on the poor.

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Jan Schmidt

4:09 pm on Wednesday, February 27, 2013

Repsonsible people keep the things they own in good repair.
Cutting taxes, or not allowing them to keep pace with the ecomony, has lead us to become irresponsible in many ways - one of which is our infrastructure.

We are past - Fix it now or pay more to fix it later.
We're now at - Fix it now or close it.

News Flash

4:31 pm on Wednesday, February 27, 2013

A tax on the poor if sponsored by a democrat is still a tax on the poor. In fact a democrat tax on the poor. Shame on any democrat that votes YEA on this bill.

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Jan Schmidt

5:54 pm on Wednesday, February 27, 2013

Shame on those who let our state fall into such disrepair, that we have to do this now.

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News Flash

7:11 pm on Wednesday, February 27, 2013

Shame on democrat governors who have incompettently run this state for how many years. Shame on their supporters.

Seamus Carty

8:37 am on Thursday, February 28, 2013

Those that want to raise the gas tax should provide the following information:
- how much money do drivers in NH pay the government? Gas tax, tolls, registration fees, tickets, etc.
- how much does it cost per year to maintain the roads and bridges?

Without the numbers, people are not going to be convinced that an increase in the gas tax is warranted. Is the money currently being paid by drivers all being used for road/bridge maintenance?

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One Man Wolf Pack

10:40 am on Thursday, February 28, 2013

Is all of the current gas tax and the proposed gas tax increase going to exclusively funding road and bridge repair and maintenance?

And if not why raise the tax instead of use all of it for what its' intended purpose is?

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One Man Wolf Pack

8:45 am on Friday, March 1, 2013

@Jan Schmidt, being a state Rep and author of the article you must be able to answer the two questions I posed right?

At the very least you can answer the first question and depending on your answer that could very well negate the need to answer the second.....why are you so slow to answer these questions?

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One Man Wolf Pack

8:49 am on Friday, March 1, 2013

Maybe a better title to your article would be

"What is the real cost of not using our tax dollars for their intended purpose?"

or how about

"The real cost of misappropriating the taxpayer's money"

Those titles sound good?

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Jan Schmidt

9:01 am on Friday, March 1, 2013

Now I know you didn't read it Charlie... I made it very clear who the author is.

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One Man Wolf Pack

9:05 am on Friday, March 1, 2013

Still no answer huh?

You and your husband @Atlant are in Cahoots on this eh?

Lets steal from the highway tax to fund rail and put everyone in danger when they cross a red listed bridge huh?

What way are you voting on this @jan?

Are going to vote to make sure our tax dollars are used for the intent for which they were collect or are you going to vote to squander our safety away on studies?

Why won't you answer the questions I have asked?

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One Man Wolf Pack

9:18 am on Friday, March 1, 2013

So you posted this rubbish as a local voice and you DO NOT agree with it?

Do you stand with the authors assertions or don't you?

Are you going to vote to use our tax dollars for the intention they were collected for or are you going to vote to spend them on special interest studies?

Re you going to vote for the people's safety or the misappropriation of taxpayer money?

What is it exactly @Jan? Please tell us...........tell your constituency you value studies over safety......awesome job representing the people @Jan awesome job.

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Jan Schmidt

9:32 am on Friday, March 1, 2013

"I'm sorry Jan, you're right... I didn't bother to read the entire thing. I am so against this, or any tax, that any reasoning just goes right by me, and no discussion is possible, so I failed to read past the title before I attacked you."

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One Man Wolf Pack

10:17 am on Friday, March 1, 2013

Still avoiding huh @Jan?

How about we try again; Do you support or have you voted to to use gas tax money for purposes other than expenses related to the the roads and bridges in NH?

Do you support raising tho the gas tax when those taxes are being used to fund rail studies instead of road and bridge repair?

Is the reason we have to raise the gas tax for road repairs or is it because the current gas tax expenditure is bieng used for something other than road repairs?

How about it Jan, do you support studies or the people's saftey? Stop dodging and answer the questions.........shame on you for being a dodgey politician instead of speaking directly to the peoples needs and inquireries!

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Atlant Schmidt

11:19 am on Friday, March 1, 2013

"Charlie W":

Perhaps you should write, E-mail, or phone your elected representatives and ask them these questions. Of course, they may expect you to identify yourself rather than simply dun them anonymously via Internet comments.

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One Man Wolf Pack

11:31 am on Friday, March 1, 2013

Free speach requires identification now? And voting doesn't?

You liberals are so cute when you trow red tape at a situation your running from.

How about either of you Schmidt's answer the question; Do you favor spending money on special interest studies over spendin it on the people's safety?

Pretty simple question you all can't seem to bring yourselves to answer now isnt it? Why is that? Not proud of your position or actions? Go figure..................

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One Man Wolf Pack

11:37 am on Friday, March 1, 2013

@Atlant, I'm just learning from the Best....kinda sux when someone takes a page out of your own book doesn't it?

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Atlant Schmidt

12:25 pm on Friday, March 1, 2013

Charlie:

You can have all the free speech you want, but if you expect any of your elected representatives to actually give a damn about what you're saying, then you'd better:

1. Make sure you're talking to *YOUR* elected representatives and not just anyone who's willing to take your guff in public and

2. Be willing to identify yourself to your representatives.

All you anonymous cowards here on Patch talk a big act but when it comes down to it, thats all you are: anonymous cowards, bloviating in public and hoping somebody is listening.

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One Man Wolf Pack

12:53 pm on Friday, March 1, 2013

@Atlant,

1) @jan staked her ground right here on the patch and you feel this is not a viable venue for a response? Sound slike you have a martial dispute with your wife and you feel she should change venues to espouse her rediculous postion on this.

2) Speaking of anonymous blow hards, I put more of my name in my Title than you do......what does that say about your absolutely rediculous posts?

What is the matter still don't want to answer the question?

Does NH State Rep Jan Schmidt support funding special interest studies over the people's safety or not?

So simple...yet all we get are the sound of crickets in the background, and pardon the pun, but the sound of distant far off train with our money for roads and bridges on board; yup there goes the people's saftey can you hear that?

Jack Langley

12:36 pm on Thursday, February 28, 2013

Its pretty disingenuious to talk about road issues when the dems just stole $300K from the Highway fund to fund another railroad study that will tell you this: Rail is practible if you tax the people who don't use it. Also, what about the Campbell email about the gas tax that just keeps giving (for other than road work)? You want more money? How about cutting everyone on the dole 5%?

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Atlant Schmidt

7:58 am on Friday, March 1, 2013

Jack:

One way that highway effectiveness can be improved is to divert traffic away from the highway. Rail has the possibility of doing that.

And the effect is especially noticeable if a highway is already operating near the "knee" in its performance where even a small additional load puts the highway into overloaded condition; all traffic slows much more than proportionally to the small added load. You can see this effect seasonally as schools in Boston go in and out of session; removing just a few student commuters from the highway greatly eases traffic congestion for all, leading to everyone spending dramatically less time commuting and, by implication, less on fuel.

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One Man Wolf Pack

8:54 am on Friday, March 1, 2013

@Atlant, so rather than address the safety issue of "493 red listed bridges" in NH you would like to see the money spent on a study that is at best only of tangent relation to the highway system? People's safety less important than a rail study?!?!?! That is rich coming from you @Atlant real rich. Tell your wife @Jan Schmidt that people's safety is more important than "studies" will you?

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Jack Langley

10:15 am on Friday, March 1, 2013

Atlant: NPR did a study on the North-South Vermont Amtrack and a good day was 250. I dont know how many cars would be taken off the road but I would bet widening 93 will do more to reduce highway congestion than adding a rail to Boston. Also, I dont agree with the implied premise that the whole state of NH wants to work in Boston and take the train. And I thought it was pretty nasty how the Conservation Law Foundation and the rail advocates did everything they could to stop, delay and increase the costs of widening 93. It became a full employment program for lawyers. While I agree with your goal of lessening congestion, I dont agree adding rail would contribute significantrly to that goal and sending me another bill for something I dont use is just robbery by another name. Thanks for your response.

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Atlant Schmidt

10:41 am on Friday, March 1, 2013

Jack:

> sending me another bill for something I dont use is just robbery by another name.

As I said elsewhere, you Libertarians are so cute when you get angry! "Robbery", ehh?

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Atlant Schmidt

10:42 am on Friday, March 1, 2013

Jack:

A commuter train to Boston is a much different proposal than an intercity train to Montreal.

Each day, something like 60,000 NH residents cross the border to work in Massachusetts; a significant fraction of those folks are headed for work in the Boston metropolitan area, well within reach of public transit from North Station.

We'll see what the study says...

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Jack Langley

11:29 am on Friday, March 1, 2013

Atlant: Now your a calm rational person who wants to engage in a logical discssion? Dont think so. Its just a matter of posts before your name-calling starts. Bye.

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Seamus Carty

11:42 am on Friday, March 1, 2013

" a significant fraction of those folks are headed for work in the Boston metropolitan area, well within reach of public transit from North Station"

That would be interesting to find out. Many decades ago, people tended to work downtown. Now, there are more and more people working in Cambridge, Waltham, lexington, Burlington, Bedford, Chelmsford, Andover... A train from Nashua to North Station won't help them....

News Flash

11:02 am on Friday, March 1, 2013

Hassan is lossing Casino bid, so how much more does the gas tax have to go up $4.00 per gallon or $5.00 per gallon. Who the hell know with democRATS. Talk about financial malfeasance.

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Proud Conservative

1:00 pm on Wednesday, March 27, 2013

Representatives in Concord are were elected to represent their constituents - not to dictate to them. Jan....are you listening?????? You are not the decision maker for your constituents. You are the implementer of the constituents decisions.

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